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to anything which is represented under an image。  I should say rather that

the image; if expressing in every point the entire reality; would no longer

be an image。  Let us suppose the existence of two objects:  one of them

shall be Cratylus; and the other the image of Cratylus; and we will

suppose; further; that some God makes not only a representation such as a

painter would make of your outward form and colour; but also creates an

inward organization like yours; having the same warmth and softness; and

into this infuses motion; and soul; and mind; such as you have; and in a

word copies all your qualities; and places them by you in another form;

would you say that this was Cratylus and the image of Cratylus; or that

there were two Cratyluses?



CRATYLUS:  I should say that there were two Cratyluses。



SOCRATES:  Then you see; my friend; that we must find some other principle

of truth in images; and also in names; and not insist that an image is no

longer an image when something is added or subtracted。  Do you not perceive

that images are very far from having qualities which are the exact

counterpart of the realities which they represent?



CRATYLUS:  Yes; I see。



SOCRATES:  But then how ridiculous would be the effect of names on things;

if they were exactly the same with them!  For they would be the doubles of

them; and no one would be able to determine which were the names and which

were the realities。



CRATYLUS:  Quite true。



SOCRATES:  Then fear not; but have the courage to admit that one name may

be correctly and another incorrectly given; and do not insist that the name

shall be exactly the same with the thing; but allow the occasional

substitution of a wrong letter; and if of a letter also of a noun in a

sentence; and if of a noun in a sentence also of a sentence which is not

appropriate to the matter; and acknowledge that the thing may be named; and

described; so long as the general character of the thing which you are

describing is retained; and this; as you will remember; was remarked by

Hermogenes and myself in the particular instance of the names of the

letters。



CRATYLUS:  Yes; I remember。



SOCRATES:  Good; and when the general character is preserved; even if some

of the proper letters are wanting; still the thing is signified;well; if

all the letters are given; not well; when only a few of them are given。  I

think that we had better admit this; lest we be punished like travellers in

Aegina who wander about the street late at night:  and be likewise told by

truth herself that we have arrived too late; or if not; you must find out

some new notion of correctness of names; and no longer maintain that a name

is the expression of a thing in letters or syllables; for if you say both;

you will be inconsistent with yourself。



CRATYLUS:  I quite acknowledge; Socrates; what you say to be very

reasonable。



SOCRATES:  Then as we are agreed thus far; let us ask ourselves whether a

name rightly imposed ought not to have the proper letters。



CRATYLUS:  Yes。



SOCRATES:  And the proper letters are those which are like the things?



CRATYLUS:  Yes。



SOCRATES:  Enough then of names which are rightly given。  And in names

which are incorrectly given; the greater part may be supposed to be made up

of proper and similar letters; or there would be no likeness; but there

will be likewise a part which is improper and spoils the beauty and

formation of the word:  you would admit that?



CRATYLUS:  There would be no use; Socrates; in my quarrelling with you;

since I cannot be satisfied that a name which is incorrectly given is a

name at all。



SOCRATES:  Do you admit a name to be the representation of a thing?



CRATYLUS:  Yes; I do。



SOCRATES:  But do you not allow that some nouns are primitive; and some

derived?



CRATYLUS:  Yes; I do。



SOCRATES:  Then if you admit that primitive or first nouns are

representations of things; is there any better way of framing

representations than by assimilating them to the objects as much as you

can; or do you prefer the notion of Hermogenes and of many others; who say

that names are conventional; and have a meaning to those who have agreed

about them; and who have previous knowledge of the things intended by them;

and that convention is the only principle; and whether you abide by our

present convention; or make a new and opposite one; according to which you

call small great and great smallthat; they would say; makes no

difference; if you are only agreed。  Which of these two notions do you

prefer?



CRATYLUS:  Representation by likeness; Socrates; is infinitely better than

representation by any chance sign。



SOCRATES:  Very good:  but if the name is to be like the thing; the letters

out of which the first names are composed must also be like things。

Returning to the image of the picture; I would ask; How could any one ever

compose a picture which would be like anything at all; if there were not

pigments in nature which resembled the things imitated; and out of which

the picture is composed?



CRATYLUS:  Impossible。



SOCRATES:  No more could names ever resemble any actually existing thing;

unless the original elements of which they are compounded bore some degree

of resemblance to the objects of which the names are the imitation:  And

the original elements are letters?



CRATYLUS:  Yes。



SOCRATES:  Let me now invite you to consider what Hermogenes and I were

saying about sounds。  Do you agree with me that the letter rho is

expressive of rapidity; motion; and hardness?  Were we right or wrong in

saying so?



CRATYLUS:  I should say that you were right。



SOCRATES:  And that lamda was expressive of smoothness; and softness; and

the like?



CRATYLUS:  There again you were right。



SOCRATES:  And yet; as you are aware; that which is called by us sklerotes;

is by the Eretrians called skleroter。



CRATYLUS:  Very true。



SOCRATES:  But are the letters rho and sigma equivalents; and is there the

same significance to them in the termination rho; which there is to us in

sigma; or is there no significance to one of us?



CRATYLUS:  Nay; surely there is a significance to both of us。



SOCRATES:  In as far as they are like; or in as far as they are unlike?



CRATYLUS:  In as far as they are like。



SOCRATES:  Are they altogether alike?



CRATYLUS:  Yes; for the purpose of expressing motion。



SOCRATES:  And what do you say of the insertion of the lamda? for that is

expressive not of hardness but of softness。



CRATYLUS:  Why; perhaps the letter lamda is wrongly inserted; Socrates; and

should be altered into rho; as you were saying to Hermogenes and in my

opinion rightly; when you spoke of adding and subtracting letters upon

occasion。



SOCRATES:  Good。  But still the word is intelligible to both of us; when I

say skleros (hard); you know what I mean。



CRATYLUS:  Yes; my dear friend; and the explanation of that is custom。



SOCRATES:  And what is custom but convention?  I utter a sound which I

understand; and you know that I understand the meaning of the sound:  this

is what you are saying?



CRATYLUS:  Yes。



SOCRATES:  And if when I speak you know my meaning; there is an indication

given by me to you?



CRATYLUS:  Yes。



SOCRATES:  This indication of my meaning may proceed from unlike as well as

from like; for example in the lamda of sklerotes。  But if this is true;

then you have made a convention with yourself; and the correctness of a

name turns out to be convention; since letters which are unlike are

indicative equally with those which are like; if they are sanctioned by

custom and convention。  And even supposing that you distinguish custom from

convention ever so much; still you must say that the signification of words

is given by custom and not by likeness; for custom may indicate by the

unlike as well as by the like。  But as we are agreed thus far; Cratylus

(for I shall assume that your silence gives consent); then custom and

convention must be supposed to contribute to the indication of our

thoughts; for suppose we take the instance of number; how can you ever

imagine; my good friend; that you will find names resembling every

individual number; unless you allow that which you term convention and

agreement to have authority in determining the correctness of names?  I

quite agree with you that words should as far as possible resemble things;

but I fear that this dragging in of resemblance; as Hermogenes says; is a

shabby thing; which has to be supplemented by the mechanical aid of

convention with a view to correctness; for I believe that if we could

always; or almost always; use likenesses; which are perfectly appropriate;

this would be the most perfect state of language; as the opposite is the

most imperfect。  But let me ask you; what is the force of names; and what

is the use of them?

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