laches-第8节
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NICIAS: Why; Laches; I do not call animals or any other things which have
no fear of dangers; because they are ignorant of them; courageous; but only
fearless and senseless。 Do you imagine that I should call little children
courageous; which fear no dangers because they know none? There is a
difference; to my way of thinking; between fearlessness and courage。 I am
of opinion that thoughtful courage is a quality possessed by very few; but
that rashness and boldness; and fearlessness; which has no forethought; are
very common qualities possessed by many men; many women; many children;
many animals。 And you; and men in general; call by the term 'courageous'
actions which I call rash;my courageous actions are wise actions。
LACHES: Behold; Socrates; how admirably; as he thinks; he dresses himself
out in words; while seeking to deprive of the honour of courage those whom
all the world acknowledges to be courageous。
NICIAS: Not so; Laches; but do not be alarmed; for I am quite willing to
say of you and also of Lamachus; and of many other Athenians; that you are
courageous and therefore wise。
LACHES: I could answer that; but I would not have you cast in my teeth
that I am a haughty Aexonian。
SOCRATES: Do not answer him; Laches; I rather fancy that you are not aware
of the source from which his wisdom is derived。 He has got all this from
my friend Damon; and Damon is always with Prodicus; who; of all the
Sophists; is considered to be the best puller to pieces of words of this
sort。
LACHES: Yes; Socrates; and the examination of such niceties is a much more
suitable employment for a Sophist than for a great statesman whom the city
chooses to preside over her。
SOCRATES: Yes; my sweet friend; but a great statesman is likely to have a
great intelligence。 And I think that the view which is implied in Nicias'
definition of courage is worthy of examination。
LACHES: Then examine for yourself; Socrates。
SOCRATES: That is what I am going to do; my dear friend。 Do not; however;
suppose I shall let you out of the partnership; for I shall expect you to
apply your mind; and join with me in the consideration of the question。
LACHES: I will if you think that I ought。
SOCRATES: Yes; I do; but I must beg of you; Nicias; to begin again。 You
remember that we originally considered courage to be a part of virtue。
NICIAS: Very true。
SOCRATES: And you yourself said that it was a part; and there were many
other parts; all of which taken together are called virtue。
NICIAS: Certainly。
SOCRATES: Do you agree with me about the parts? For I say that justice;
temperance; and the like; are all of them parts of virtue as well as
courage。 Would you not say the same?
NICIAS: Certainly。
SOCRATES: Well then; so far we are agreed。 And now let us proceed a step;
and try to arrive at a similar agreement about the fearful and the hopeful:
I do not want you to be thinking one thing and myself another。 Let me then
tell you my own opinion; and if I am wrong you shall set me right: in my
opinion the terrible and the hopeful are the things which do or do not
create fear; and fear is not of the present; nor of the past; but is of
future and expected evil。 Do you not agree to that; Laches?
LACHES: Yes; Socrates; entirely。
SOCRATES: That is my view; Nicias; the terrible things; as I should say;
are the evils which are future; and the hopeful are the good or not evil
things which are future。 Do you or do you not agree with me?
NICIAS: I agree。
SOCRATES: And the knowledge of these things you call courage?
NICIAS: Precisely。
SOCRATES: And now let me see whether you agree with Laches and myself as
to a third point。
NICIAS: What is that?
SOCRATES: I will tell you。 He and I have a notion that there is not one
knowledge or science of the past; another of the present; a third of what
is likely to be best and what will be best in the future; but that of all
three there is one science only: for example; there is one science of
medicine which is concerned with the inspection of health equally in all
times; present; past; and future; and one science of husbandry in like
manner; which is concerned with the productions of the earth in all times。
As to the art of the general; you yourselves will be my witnesses that he
has an excellent foreknowledge of the future; and that he claims to be the
master and not the servant of the soothsayer; because he knows better what
is happening or is likely to happen in war: and accordingly the law places
the soothsayer under the general; and not the general under the soothsayer。
Am I not correct in saying so; Laches?
LACHES: Quite correct。
SOCRATES: And do you; Nicias; also acknowledge that the same science has
understanding of the same things; whether future; present; or past?
NICIAS: Yes; indeed Socrates; that is my opinion。
SOCRATES: And courage; my friend; is; as you say; a knowledge of the
fearful and of the hopeful?
NICIAS: Yes。
SOCRATES: And the fearful; and the hopeful; are admitted to be future
goods and future evils?
NICIAS: True。
SOCRATES: And the same science has to do with the same things in the
future or at any time?
NICIAS: That is true。
SOCRATES: Then courage is not the science which is concerned with the
fearful and hopeful; for they are future only; courage; like the other
sciences; is concerned not only with good and evil of the future; but of
the present and past; and of any time?
NICIAS: That; as I suppose; is true。
SOCRATES: Then the answer which you have given; Nicias; includes only a
third part of courage; but our question extended to the whole nature of
courage: and according to your view; that is; according to your present
view; courage is not only the knowledge of the hopeful and the fearful; but
seems to include nearly every good and evil without reference to time。
What do you say to that alteration in your statement?
NICIAS: I agree; Socrates。
SOCRATES: But then; my dear friend; if a man knew all good and evil; and
how they are; and have been; and will be produced; would he not be perfect;
and wanting in no virtue; whether justice; or temperance; or holiness? He
would possess them all; and he would know which were dangers and which were
not; and guard against them whether they were supernatural or natural; and
he would provide the good; as he would know how to deal both with gods or
men。
NICIAS: I think; Socrates; that there is a great deal of truth in what you
say。
SOCRATES: But then; Nicias; courage; according to this new definition of
yours; instead of being a part of virtue only; will be all virtue?
NICIAS: It would seem so。
SOCRATES: But we were saying that courage is one of the parts of virtue?
NICIAS: Yes; that was what we were saying。
SOCRATES: And that is in contradiction with our present view?
NICIAS: That appears to be the case。
SOCRATES: Then; Nicias; we have not discovered what courage is。
NICIAS: We have not。
LACHES: And yet; friend Nicias; I imagined that you would have made the
discovery; when you were so contemptuous of the answers which I made to
Socrates。 I had very great hopes that you would have been enlightened by
the wisdom of Damon。
NICIAS: I perceive; Laches; that you think nothing of having displayed
your ignorance of the nature of courage; but you look only to see whether I
have not made a similar display; and if we are both equally ignorant of the
things which a man who is good for anything should know; that; I suppose;
will be of no consequence。 You certainly appear to me very like the rest
of the world; looking at your neighbour and not at yourself。 I am of
opinion that enough has been said on the subject which we have been
discussing; and if anything has been imperfectly said; that may be
hereafter corrected by the help of Damon; whom you think to laugh down;
although you have never seen him; and with the help of others。 And when I
am satisfied myself; I will freely impart my satisfaction to you; for I
think that you are very much in want of knowle