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the following ill effects:… It would make the member more
shamelessly and shockingly corrupt; it would increase his dependence
on those who could best support him at his election; it would wrack
and tear to pieces the fortunes of those who stood upon their own
fortunes and their private interest; it would make the electors
infinitely more venal; and it would make the whole body of the
people; who are; whether they have votes or not; concerned in
elections; more lawless; more idle; more debauched; it would utterly
destroy the sobriety; the industry; the integrity; the simplicity of
all the people; and undermine; I am much afraid; the deepest and
best laid foundations of the commonwealth。

Those who have spoken and written upon this subject without doors;
do not so much deny the probable existence of these inconveniences
in their measure; as they trust for the prevention to remedies of
various sorts; which they propose。  First; a place bill; but if this
will not do; as they fear it will not; then; they say; we will have
a rotation; and a certain number of you shall be rendered incapable
of being elected for ten years。  Then; for the electors; they shall
ballot; the members of parliament also shall decide by ballot; and a
fifth project is the change of the present legal representation of
the kingdom。  On all this I shall observe; that it will be very
unsuitable to your wisdom to adopt the project of a bill; to which
there are objections insuperable by anything in the bill itself;
upon the hope that those objections may be removed by subsequent
projects; every one of which is full of difficulties of its own; and
which are all of them very essential alterations in the
Constitution。  This seems very irregular and unusual。  If anything
should make this a very doubtful measure; what can make it more so
than that; in the opinion of its advocates; it would aggravate all
our old inconveniences in such a manner as to require a total
alteration in the Constitution of the kingdom?  If the remedies are
proper in a triennial; they will not be less so in septennial
elections; let us try them first; see how the House relishes them;
see how they will operate in the nation; and then; having felt your
way; you will be prepared against these inconveniences。

The honourable gentleman sees that I respect the principle upon
which he goes; as well as his intentions and his abilities。  He will
believe that I do not differ from him wantonly; and on trivial
grounds。  He is very sure that it was not his embracing one way
which determined me to take the other。  I have not; in newspapers;
to derogate from his fair fame with the nation; printed the first
rude sketch of his bill with ungenerous and invidious comments。  I
have not; in conversations industriously circulated about the town;
and talked on the benches of this House; attributed his conduct to
motives low and unworthy; and as groundless as they are injurious。
I do not affect to be frightened with this proposition; as if some
hideous spectre had started from hell; which was to be sent back
again by every form of exorcism; and every kind of incantation。  I
invoke no Acheron to overwhelm him in the whirlpools of his muddy
gulf。  I do not tell the respectable mover and seconder; by a
perversion of their sense and expressions; that their proposition
halts between the ridiculous and the dangerous。  I am not one of
those who start up three at a time; and fall upon and strike at him
with so much eagerness; that our daggers hack one another in his
sides。  My honourable friend has not brought down a spirited imp of
chivalry; to win the first achievement and blazon of arms on his
milk…white shield in a field listed against him; nor brought out the
generous offspring of lions; and said to them; 〃Not against that
side of the forest; beware of thathere is the prey where you are
to fasten your paws;〃 and seasoning his unpractised jaws with blood;
tell him; 〃This is the milk for which you are to thirst hereafter。〃
We furnish at his expense no holiday; nor suspend hell that a crafty
Ixion may have rest from his wheel; nor give the common adversary;
if he be a common adversary; reason to say; 〃I would have put in my
word to oppose; but the eagerness of your allies in your social war
was such that I could not break in upon you。〃  I hope he sees and
feels; and that every member sees and feels along with him; the
difference between amicable dissent and civil discord。



SPEECH ON REFORM OF REPRESENTATION IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS
June; 1784



Mr。 Speaker;We have now discovered; at the close of the eighteenth
century; that the Constitution of England; which for a series of
ages had been the proud distinction of this country; always the
admiration; and sometimes the envy; of the wise and learned in every
other nationwe have discovered that this boasted Constitution; in
the most boasted part of it; is a gross imposition upon the
understanding of mankind; an insult to their feelings; and acting by
contrivances destructive to the best and most valuable interests of
the people。  Our political architects have taken a survey of the
fabric of the British Constitution。  It is singular that they report
nothing against the Crown; nothing against the Lords; but in the
House of Commons everything is unsound; it is ruinous in every part。
It is infested by the dry rot; and ready to tumble about our ears
without their immediate help。  You know by the faults they find what
are their ideas of the alteration。  As all government stands upon
opinion; they know that the way utterly to destroy it is to remove
that opinion; to take away all reverence; all confidence from it;
and then; at the first blast of public discontent and popular
tumult; it tumbles to the ground。

In considering this question; they who oppose it; oppose it on
different grounds; one is in the nature of a previous questionthat
some alterations may be expedient; but that this is not the time for
making them。  The other is; that no essential alterations are at all
wanting; and that neither now; nor at any time; is it prudent or
safe to be meddling with the fundamental principles and ancient
tried usages of our Constitutionthat our representation is as
nearly perfect as the necessary imperfection of human affairs and of
human creatures will suffer it to be; and that it is a subject of
prudent and honest use and thankful enjoyment; and not of captious
criticism and rash experiment。

On the other side; there are two parties; who proceed on two
groundsin my opinion; as they state them; utterly irreconcilable。
The one is juridical; the other political。  The one is in the nature
of a claim of right; on the supposed rights of man as man; this
party desire the decision of a suit。  The other ground; as far as I
can divine what it directly means; is; that the representation is
not so politically framed as to answer the theory of its
institution。  As to the claim of right; the meanest petitioner; the
most gross and ignorant; is as good as the best; in some respects
his claim is more favourable on account of his ignorance; his
weakness; his poverty and distress only add to his titles; he sues
in forma pauperis:  he ought to be a favourite of the Court。  But
when the other ground is taken; when the question is political; when
a new Constitution is to be made on a sound theory of government;
then the presumptuous pride of didactic ignorance is to be excluded
from the council in this high and arduous matter; which often bids
defiance to the experience of the wisest。  The first claims a
personal representation; the latter rejects it with scorn and
fervour。  The language of the first party is plain and intelligible;
they who plead an absolute right; cannot be satisfied with anything
short of personal representation; because all natural rights must be
the rights of individuals:  as by nature there is no such thing as
politic or corporate personality; all these ideas are mere fictions
of law; they are creatures of voluntary institution; men as men are
individuals; and nothing else。  They; therefore; who reject the
principle of natural and personal representation; are essentially
and eternally at variance with those who claim it。  As to the first
sort of reformers; it is ridiculous to talk to them of the British
Constitution upon any or all of its bases; for they lay it down;
that every man ought to govern himself; and that where he cannot go
himself he must send his representative; that all other government
is usurpation; and is so far from having a claim to our obedience;
that it is not only our right; but our duty; to resist it。  Nine…
tenths of the reformers argue thusthat is; on the natural right。
It is impossible not to make some reflection on the nature of this
claim; or avoid a comparison between the extent of the principle and
the present object of the demand。  If this claim be founded; it is
clear to what it goes。  The House of Commons; in that light;
undoubtedly is no representative of the people as a collection of
individuals。  Nobody pretends it; nobody can justify such an
assertion。  When you come to examine into this claim of right;
founded on th

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