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Does he mean that?  The truth about the matter is this: Judge Douglas

has sung paeans to his 〃Popular Sovereignty〃 doctrine until his

Supreme Court; co…operating with him; has squatted his Squatter

Sovereignty out。  But he will keep up this species of humbuggery

about Squatter Sovereignty。  He has at last invented this sort of

do…nothing sovereignty;that the people may exclude slavery by a

sort of 〃sovereignty〃 that is exercised by doing nothing at all。  Is

not that running his Popular Sovereignty down awfully?  Has it not

got down as thin as the homeopathic soup that was made by boiling the

shadow of a pigeon that had starved to death?  But at last; when it

is brought to the test of close reasoning; there is not even that

thin decoction of it left。  It is a presumption impossible in the

domain of thought。  It is precisely no other than the putting of that

most unphilosophical proposition; that two bodies can occupy the same

space at the same time。  The Dred Scott decision covers the whole

ground; and while it occupies it; there is no room even for the

shadow of a starved pigeon to occupy the same ground。



Judge Douglas; in reply to what I have said about having upon a

previous occasion made the speech at Ottawa as the one he took an

extract from at Charleston; says it only shows that I practiced the

deception twice。  Now; my friends; are any of you obtuse enough to

swallow that?  Judge Douglas had said I had made a speech at

Charleston that I would not make up north; and I turned around and

answered him by showing I had made that same speech up north;had

made it at Ottawa; made it in his hearing; made it in the Abolition

District;in Lovejoy's District;in the personal presence of

Lovejoy himself;in the same atmosphere exactly in which I had made

my Chicago speech; of which he complains so much。



Now; in relation to my not having said anything about the quotation

from the Chicago speech: he thinks that is a terrible subject for me

to handle。  Why; gentlemen; I can show you that the substance of the

Chicago speech I delivered two years ago in 〃Egypt;〃 as he calls it。

It was down at Springfield。  That speech is here in this book; and I

could turn to it and read it to you but for the lack of time。  I have

not now the time to read it。  '〃Read it; read it。〃' No; gentlemen; I

am obliged to use discretion in disposing most advantageously of my

brief time。  The Judge has taken great exception to my adopting the

heretical statement in the Declaration of Independence; that 〃all men

are created equal;〃 and he has a great deal to say about negro

equality。  I want to say that in sometimes alluding to the

Declaration of Independence; I have only uttered the sentiments that

Henry Clay used to hold。  Allow me to occupy your time a moment with

what he said。  Mr。 Clay was at one time called upon in Indiana; and

in a way that I suppose was very insulting; to liberate his slaves;

and he made a written reply to that application; and one portion of

it is in these words:



〃What is the foundation of this appeal to me in Indiana to liberate

the slaves under my care in Kentucky?  It is a general declaration in

the act announcing to the world the independence of the thirteen

American colonies; that men are created equal。  Now; as an abstract

principle; there is no doubt of the truth of that declaration; and it

is desirable in the original construction of society; and in

organized societies; to keep it in view as a great fundamental

principle。〃



When I sometimes; in relation to the organization of new societies in

new countries; where the soil is clean and clear; insisted that we

should keep that principle in view; Judge Douglas will have it that I

want a negro wife。  He never can be brought to understand that there

is any middle ground on this subject。  I have lived until my fiftieth

year; and have never had a negro woman either for a slave or a wife;

and I think I can live fifty centuries; for that matter; without

having had one for either。  I maintain that you may take Judge

Douglas's quotations from my Chicago speech; and from my Charleston

speech; and the Galesburgh speech;in his speech of to…day;and

compare them over; and I am willing to trust them with you upon his

proposition that they show rascality or double…dealing。  I deny that

they do。



The Judge does not seem at all disposed to have peace; but I find he

is disposed to have a personal warfare with me。  He says that my oath

would not be taken against the bare word of Charles H。  Lanphier or

Thomas L。  Harris。  Well; that is altogether a matter of opinion。  It

is certainly not for me to vaunt my word against oaths of these

gentlemen; but I will tell Judge Douglas again the facts upon which I

〃dared〃 to say they proved a forgery。  I pointed out at Galesburgh

that the publication of these resolutions in the Illinois State

Register could not have been the result of accident; as the

proceedings of that meeting bore unmistakable evidence of being done

by a man who knew it was a forgery; that it was a publication partly

taken from the real proceedings of the Convention; and partly from

the proceedings of a convention at another place; which showed that

he had the real proceedings before him; and taking one part of the

resolutions; he threw out another part; and substituted false and

fraudulent ones in their stead。  I pointed that out to him; and also

that his friend Lanphier; who was editor of the Register at that time

and now is; must have known how it was done。  Now; whether he did it;

or got some friend to do it for him; I could not tell; but he

certainly knew all about it。  I pointed out to Judge Douglas that in

his Freeport speech he had  promised to investigate that matter。

Does he now say that he did not make that promise?   I have a right

to ask why he did not keep it。  I call upon him to tell here to…day

why he did not keep that promise?  That fraud has been traced up so

that it lies between him; Harris; and Lanphier。  There is little room

for escape for Lanphier。  Lanphier is doing the Judge good service;

and Douglas desires his word to be taken for the truth。  He desires

Lanphier to be taken as authority in what he states in his newspaper。

He desires Harris to be taken as a man of vast credibility; and when

this thing lies among them; they will not press it to show where the

guilt really belongs。  Now; as he has said that he would investigate

it; and implied that he would tell us the result of his

investigation; I demand of him to tell why he did not investigate it;

if he did not; and if he did; why he won't tell the result。  I call

upon him for that。



This is the third time that Judge Douglas has assumed that he learned

about these resolutions by Harris's attempting to use them against

Norton on the floor of Congress。  I tell Judge Douglas the public

records of the country show that he himself attempted it upon

Trumbull a month before Harris tried them on Norton; that Harris had

the opportunity of learning it from him; rather than he from Harris。

I now ask his attention to that part of the record on the case。  My

friends; I am not disposed to detain you longer in regard to that

matter。



I am told that I still have five minutes left。  There is another

matter I wish to call attention to。  He says; when he discovered

there was a mistake in that case; he came forward magnanimously;

without my calling his attention to it; and explained it。  I will

tell you how he became so magnanimous。  When the newspapers of our

side had discovered and published it; and put it beyond his power to

deny it; then he came forward and made a virtue of necessity by

acknowledging it。  Now he argues that all the point there was in

those resolutions; although never passed at Springfield; is retained

by their being passed at other localities。  Is that true?  He said I

had a hand in passing them; in his opening speech; that I was in the

convention and helped to pass them。  Do the resolutions touch me at

all?  It strikes me there is some difference between holding a man

responsible for an act which he has not done and holding him

responsible for an act that he has

done。  You will judge whether there is any difference in the 〃spots。〃

And he has taken credit for great magnanimity in coming forward and

acknowledging what is proved on him beyond even the capacity of Judge

Douglas to deny; and he has more capacity in that way than any other

living man。



Then he wants to know why I won't withdraw the charge in regard to a

conspiracy to make slavery national; as he has withdrawn the one he

made。  May it please his worship; I will withdraw it when it is

proven false on me as that was proven false on him。  I will add a

little more than that; I will withdraw it whenever a reasonable man

shall be brought to believe that the charge is not true。  I have

asked Judge Douglas's attention to certain matters of fact tendi

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