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with him in regard to the political obligation of a Supreme Court

decision。  I have asked his attention to the fact that Jefferson

differed with him in regard to the political obligation of a Supreme

Court decision。  Jefferson said that 〃Judges are as honest as other

men; and not more so。〃  And he said; substantially; that whenever a

free people should give up in absolute submission to any department

of government; retaining for themselves no appeal from it; their

liberties were gone。  I have asked his attention to the fact that the

Cincinnati platform; upon which he says he stands; disregards a

time…honored decision of the Supreme Court; in denying the power of

Congress to establish a National Bank。  I have asked his attention to

the fact that he himself was one of the most active instruments at

one time in breaking down the Supreme Court of the State of Illinois

because it had made a decision distasteful to him;a struggle ending

in the remarkable circumstance of his sitting down as one of the new

Judges who were to overslaugh that decision; getting his title of

Judge in that very way。



So far in this controversy I can get no answer at all from Judge

Douglas upon these subjects。  Not one can I get from him; except that

he swells himself up and says; 〃All of us who stand by the decision

of the Supreme Court are the friends of the Constitution; all you

fellows that dare question it in any way are the enemies of the

Constitution。〃  Now; in this very devoted adherence to this decision;

in opposition to all the great political leaders whom he has

recognized as leaders; in opposition to his former self and history;

there is something very marked。  And the manner in which he adheres

to it;not as being right upon the merits; as he conceives (because

he did not discuss that at all); but as being absolutely obligatory

upon every one simply because of the source from whence it comes; as

that which no man can gainsay; whatever it may be;this is another

marked feature of his adherence to that decision。  It marks it in

this respect; that it commits him to the next decision; whenever it

comes; as being as obligatory as this one; since he does not

investigate it; and won't inquire whether this opinion is right or

wrong。  So he takes the next one without inquiring whether it is

right or wrong。  He teaches men this doctrine; and in so doing

prepares the public mind to take the next decision when it comes;

without any inquiry。  In this I think I argue fairly (without

questioning motives at all) that Judge Douglas is most ingeniously

and powerfully preparing the public mind to take that decision when

it comes; and not only so; but he is doing it in various other ways。

In these general maxims about liberty; in his assertions that he

〃don't care whether slavery is voted up or voted down;〃; that

〃whoever wants slavery has a right to have it〃; that 〃upon principles

of equality it should be allowed to go everywhere〃; that 〃there is no

inconsistency between free and slave institutions 〃… in this he is

also preparing (whether purposely or not) the way for making the

institution of slavery national!  I repeat again; for I wish no

misunderstanding; that I do not charge that he means it so; but I

call upon your minds to inquire; if you were going to get the best

instrument you could; and then set it to work in the most ingenious

way; to prepare the public mind for this movement; operating in the

free States; where there is now an abhorrence of the institution of

slavery; could you find an instrument so capable of doing it as Judge

Douglas; or one employed in so apt a way to do it?



I have said once before; and I will repeat it now; that Mr。 Clay;

when he was once answering an objection to the Colonization Society;

that it had a tendency to the ultimate emancipation of the slaves;

said that:



〃those who would repress all tendencies to liberty and ultimate

emancipation must do more than put down the benevolent efforts of the

Colonization Society: they must go back to the era of our liberty and

independence; and muzzle the cannon that thunders its annual joyous

return; they must blow out the moral lights around us; they must

penetrate the human soul; and eradicate the light of reason and the

love of liberty!〃



And I do thinkI repeat; though I said it on a former occasionthat

Judge Douglas and whoever; like him; teaches that the negro has no

share; humble though it may be; in the Declaration of Independence;

is going back to the era of our liberty and independence; and; so far

as in him lies; muzzling the cannon that thunders its annual joyous

return; that he is blowing out the moral lights around us; when he

contends that whoever wants slaves has a right to hold them; that he

is penetrating; so far as lies in his power; the human soul; and

eradicating the light of reason and the love of liberty; when he is

in every possible way preparing the public mind; by his vast

influence; for making the institution of slavery perpetual and

national。



There is; my friends; only one other point to which I will call your

attention for the remaining time that I have left me; and perhaps I

shall not occupy the entire time that I have; as that one point may

not take me clear through it。



Among the interrogatories that Judge Douglas propounded to me at

Freeport; there was one in about this language:



〃Are you opposed to the acquisition of any further territory to the

United States; unless slavery shall first be prohibited therein?〃



I answered; as I thought; in this way: that I am not generally

opposed to the acquisition of additional territory; and that I would

support a proposition for the acquisition of additional territory

according as my supporting it was or was not calculated to aggravate

this slavery question amongst us。  I then proposed to Judge Douglas

another interrogatory; which was correlative to that: 〃Are you in

favor of acquiring additional territory; in disregard of how it may

affect us upon the slavery question?〃 Judge Douglas answered;that

is; in his own way he answered it。  I believe that; although he took

a good many words to answer it; it was a little more fully answered

than any other。  The substance of his answer was that this country

would continue to expand; that it would need additional territory;

that it was as absurd to suppose that we could continue upon our

present territory; enlarging in population as we are; as it would be

to hoop a boy twelve years of age; and expect him to grow to man's

size without bursting the hoops。  I believe it was something like

that。  Consequently; he was in favor of the acquisition of further

territory as fast as we might need it; in disregard of how it might

affect the slavery question。  I do not say this as giving his exact

language; but he said so substantially; and he would leave the

question of slavery; where the territory was acquired; to be settled

by the people of the acquired territory。  '〃That's the doctrine。〃'

May be it is; let us consider that for a while。  This will probably;

in the run of things; become one of the concrete manifestations of

this slavery question。  If Judge Douglas's policy upon this question

succeeds; and gets fairly settled down; until all opposition is

crushed out; the next thing will be a grab for the territory of poor

Mexico; an invasion of the rich lands of South America; then the

adjoining islands will follow; each one of which promises additional

slave…fields。  And this question is to be left to the people of those

countries for settlement。  When we get Mexico; I don't know whether

the Judge will be in favor of the Mexican people that we get with it

settling that question for themselves and all others; because we know

the Judge has a great horror for mongrels; and I understand that the

people of Mexico are most decidedly a race of mongrels。  I understand

that there is not more than one person there out of eight who is pure

white; and I suppose from the Judge's previous declaration that when

we get Mexico; or any considerable portion of it; that he will be in

favor of these mongrels settling the question; which would bring him

somewhat into collision with his horror of an inferior race。



It is to be remembered; though; that this power of acquiring

additional territory is a power confided to the President and the

Senate of the United States。  It is a power not under the control of

the representatives of the people any further than they; the

President and the Senate; can be considered the representatives of

the people。  Let me illustrate that by a case we have in our history。

When we acquired the territory from Mexico in the Mexican War; the

House of Representatives; composed of the immediate representatives

of the people; all the time insisted that the territory thus to be

acquired should be brought in upon condition that slavery should be

forever prohibited therein;

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