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do injustice and to escape punishment is not the worst of all evils察or察if you leave her word unrefuted察by the dog the god of Egypt察I declare察O Callicles察that Callicles will never be at one with himself察but that his whole life察will be a discord。 And yet察my friend察I would rather that my lyre should be inharmonious察and that there should be no music in the chorus which I provided察aye察or that the whole world should be at odds with me察and oppose me察rather than that I myself should be at odds with myself察and contradict myself。 Cal。 O Socrates察you are a regular declaimer察and seem to be running riot in the argument。 And now you are declaiming in this way because Polus has fallen into the same error himself of which he accused Gorgias此for he said that when Gorgias was asked by you察whether察if some one came to him who wanted to learn rhetoric察and did not know justice察he would teach him justice察Gorgias in his modesty replied that he would察because he thought that mankind in general would be displeased if he answered ;No;察and then in consequence of this admission察Gorgias was compelled to contradict himself察that being just the sort of thing in which you delight。 Whereupon Polus laughed at you deservedly察as I think察but now he has himself fallen into the same trap。 I cannot say very much for his wit when he conceded to you that to do is more dishonourable than to suffer injustice察for this was the admission which led to his being entangled by you察and because he was too modest to say what he thought察he had his mouth stopped。 For the truth is察Socrates察that you察who pretend to be engaged in the pursuit of truth察are appealing now to the popular and vulgar notions of right察which are not natural察but only conventional。 Convention and nature are generally at variance with one another此and hence察if a person is too modest to say what he thinks察he is compelled to contradict himself察and you察in your ingenuity perceiving the advantage to be thereby gained察slyly ask of him who is arguing conventionally a question which is to be determined by the rule of nature察and if he is talking of the rule of nature察you slip away to custom此as察for instance察you did in this very discussion about doing and suffering injustice。 When Polus was speaking of the conventionally dishonourable察you assailed him from the point of view of nature察for by the rule of nature察to suffer injustice is the greater disgrace because the greater evil察but conventionally察to do evil is the more disgraceful。 For the suffering of injustice is hot the part of a man察but of a slave察who indeed had better die than live察since when he is wronged and trampled upon察he is unable to help himself察or any other about whom he cares。 The reason察as I conceive察is that the makers of laws are the majority who are weak察and they察make laws and distribute praises and censures with a view to themselves and to their own interests察and they此terrify the stronger sort of men察and those who are able to get the better of them in order that they may not get the better of them察and they say察that dishonesty is shameful and unjust察meaning察by the word injustice察the desire of a man to have more than his neighbours察for knowing their own inferiority察I suspect that they are too glad of equality。 And therefore the endeavour to have more than the many察is conventionally said to be shameful and unjust察and is called injustice察whereas nature herself intimates that it is just for the better to have more than the worse察the more powerful than the weaker察and in many ways she shows察among men as well as among animals察and indeed among whole cities and races察that justice consists in the superior ruling over and having more than the inferior。 For on what principle of justice did Xerxes invade Hellas察or his father the Scythians拭。not to speak of numberless other examples。 Nay察but these are the men who act according to nature察yes察by Heaven察and according to the law of nature此not察perhaps察according to that artificial law察which we invent and impose upon our fellows察of whom we take the best and strongest from their youth upwards察and tame them like young lions察 charming them with the sound of the voice察and saying to them察that with equality they must be content察and that the equal is the honourable and the just。 But if there were a man who had sufficient force察he would shake off and break through察and escape from all this察he would trample under foot all our formulas and spells and charms察and all our laws which are against nature此the slave would rise in rebellion and be lord over us察and the light of natural justice would shine forth。 And this I take to be the sentiment of Pindar察when he says in his poem察that
Law is the king of all察of mortals as well as of immortals
this察as he says
Makes might to be right察doing violence with highest hand察as I infer from the deeds of Heracles察for without buying them´
´I do not remember the exact words察but the meaning is察that without buying them察and without their being given to him察he carried off the oxen of Geryon察according to the law of natural right察and that the oxen and other possessions of the weaker and inferior properly belong to the stronger and superior。 And this is true察as you may ascertain察if you will leave philosophy and go on to higher things此for philosophy察Socrates察if pursued in moderation and at the proper age察is an elegant accomplishment察but too much philosophy is the ruin of human life。 Even if a man has good parts察still察if he carries philosophy into later life察he is necessarily ignorant of all those things which a gentleman and a person of honour ought to know察he is inexperienced in the laws of the State察and in the language which ought to be used in the dealings of man with man察whether private or public察and utterly ignorant of the pleasures and desires of mankind and of human character in general。 And people of this sort察when they betake themselves to politics or business察are as ridiculous as I imagine the politicians to be察when they make their appearance in the arena of philosophy。 For察as Euripides says
Every man shines in that and pursues that察and devotes the greatest portion of the day to that in which he most excels
but anything in which he is inferior察he avoids and depreciates察and praises the opposite partiality to himself察and because he from that he will thus praise himself。 The true principle is to unite them。 Philosophy察as a part of education察is an excellent thing察and there is no disgrace to a man while he is young in pursuing such a study察but when he is more advanced in years察the thing becomes ridiculous察and I feel towards philosophers as I do towards those who lisp and imitate children。 For I love to see a little child察who is not of an age to speak plainly察lisping at his play察there is an appearance of grace and freedom in his utterance察which is natural to his childish years。 But when I hear some small creature carefully articulating its words察I am offended察the sound is disagreeable察and has to my ears the twang of slavery。 So when I hear a man lisping察or see him playing like a child察his behaviour appears to me ridiculous and unmanly and worthy of stripes。 And I have the same feeling about students of philosophy察when I see a youth thus engaged´the study appears to me to be in character察and becoming a man of liberal education察and him who neglects philosophy I regard as an inferior man察who will never aspire to anything great or noble。 But if I see him continuing the study in later life察and not leaving off察I should like to beat him察Socrates察for察as I was saying察such a one察even though he have good natural parts察becomes effeminate。 He flies from the busy centre and the market´place察in which察as the poet says察men become distinguished察he creeps into a corner for the rest of his life察and talks in a whisper with three or four admiring you察but never speaks out like a freeman in a satisfactory manner。 Now I察Socrates察am very well inclined towards you察and my feeling may be compared with that of Zethus towards Amphion察in the play of Euripides察whom I was mentioning just now此for I am disposed to say to you much what Zethus said to his brother察that you察Socrates察are careless about the things of which you ought to be careful察and that you
Who have a soul so noble察are remarkable for a puerile exterior察 Neither in a court of justice could you state a case察or give any reason or proof察offer valiant counsel on another's behalf。
And you must not be offended察my dear Socrates察for I am speaking out of good´will towards you察if I ask whether you are not ashamed of being thus defenceless察which I affirm to be the condition not of you only but of all those who will carry the study of philosophy too far。 For suppose that some one were to take you察or any one of your sort察off to prison察declaring that you had done wrong when you had done no wrong察you must allow that you would not know what to do此there you would stand giddy and gaping察and not having a word to say察and when you went up before the Court察even if the accuser were a poor creature and not good for much察you would die if he were disposed to claim the penalty of dea